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Heffay
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 Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:46 pm |
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ChrisAdyNelson wrote: jakemohan wrote: I will stop using a high-powered blinking headlight when "I didn't see him" is no longer a legitimate excuse for hitting a cyclist. That's not the point.... the point is, you can get hit by the car you blinded with your light too - if the light is bright and in their eyes, you are creating risk for yourself and possible other too. Think about this... You're traveling southbound with bright strobing front light, I'm biking northbound with my red rear blinky. Car driving northbound has trouble seeing me because of the bright strobing light in their eye and hits me. This is the situation that was described by my co-worker - no she did not hit a bike, but she was very upset when she realized she could not see the bike on her side of the road because of the bright strobing light on the on-coming bike. There is a middle ground where you are making yourself SEEN, but not BLINDING other traffic. (edit - spelling error) Which is more likely? Getting hit by a car who didn't see your non-blinking light, or getting hit by a car who was blinded by your blinking light?
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ChrisAdyNelson
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:08 pm |
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Heffay wrote: Which is more likely? Getting hit by a car who didn't see your non-blinking light, or getting hit by a car who was blinded by your blinking light? To repeat my point....
There is a middle ground where you are making yourself SEEN, but not BLINDING other traffic.It's not either/or... Get it??
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Heffay
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:42 pm |
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ChrisAdyNelson wrote: Heffay wrote: Which is more likely? Getting hit by a car who didn't see your non-blinking light, or getting hit by a car who was blinded by your blinking light? To repeat my point....
There is a middle ground where you are making yourself SEEN, but not BLINDING other traffic.It's not either/or... Get it?? Yup, I get it.
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jakemohan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:27 pm |
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I use a blinking light that I aim 20-25 ft in front of my bike so as to avoid blinding others.
I am the face of the poster boy of the spokesperson for my generation's middle ground.
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ChrisAdyNelson
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:18 pm |
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| Regularly rides in ShelbyvilleJoined: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:04 pmPosts: 1251Location: Wild Wild West
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Heffay wrote: Yup, I get it. Thank you! 
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ChrisAdyNelson
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:18 pm |
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jakemohan wrote: I use a blinking light that I aim 20-25 ft in front of my bike so as to avoid blinding others.
I am the face of the poster boy of the spokesperson for my generation's middle ground. Thank you!
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HerculesTRockefeller
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:55 am |
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 My middle name is SchwinnJoined: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:12 pmPosts: 4094Location: Quoting Lebowski.
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I don't think "I didn't see it" has as much to do with vision as it does with social standing. It's probably an excuse to running over black people in certain circles.
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Jerbear
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:20 am |
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HerculesTRockefeller wrote: I don't think "I didn't see it" has as much to do with vision as it does with social standing. It's probably an excuse to running over black people in certain circles. Wow. Nice hypothesizing there.
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Volsung
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| Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:21 pm |
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 Does this bike make my tires look fat?Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:18 pmPosts: 660Location: Audubon Park
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On a side note, make sure it doesn't blink TOO fast. Fast strobe lights really mess with your depth perception, which is one reason police flashlights have that option.
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moezombie
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| Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:53 am |
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I wasn't even thinking cars, in regards to whom a person might be blinding with their bright flasher since I'm either riding with traffic or perpendicular to it on a trail. The person that is affected is the directly oncoming cyclist on the trail. It's not a question of you being too bright for some random car, it's you shining your brighter than an arc welder light, blinding the bike coming at you. I'm happy that on your side of the light, as it spreads into the expanse of darkness, that it doesn't seem all that big a deal, we're on the other side getting it full bore, washing out anything in front of us, not lighting our way. I do appreciate those that adjust it down a bit.
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ChrisAdyNelson
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:41 am |
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| Regularly rides in ShelbyvilleJoined: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:04 pmPosts: 1251Location: Wild Wild West
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prof wrote: jakemohan wrote: I've got front and rear Fleas and I love them. Yeah, I don't get all the USB hating. These are great little lights for what they are: environmentally friendly, super light, bright, and the low-battery indicator is awesome. I mean, I've only had ithem for about a year, so maybe they break too soon, but they seem more solid than the planet bike unit I have. I just got the a Flea front light to mount on my Bell Muni helmet (helmet has built-in mounting). Really like it as a second light! (Still use a handle bar mounted light)
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Vik Strong
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:02 pm |
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hey strobe bros: you probs dont need your 1k lumen light strobin' up in my business ALL the time. like yesterday. at 530 pm. when the sun was still out. on the greenway.
just sayin'
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omgmrj
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:15 pm |
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+1
Probably don't need to be strobing on the greenway, period.
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Vik Strong
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:17 pm |
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| 42% more WOTF's than TOTH'sJoined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:52 pmPosts: 2373Location: Longfellow
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yeah. im all about good lighting. i like to see and be seen. but some lights are overkill, especially on the greenway. why point them up in my grill when you dont even need to be using it?
its one thing on the road. with all the cars, noise, lights and exhaust smell. but lets try to keep my nice, quiet peacful ride on the greenway that way. relaxin.
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Shizzy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:36 am |
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 Can't... stop... doing... the Monkey TagJoined: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:22 amPosts: 1370Location: Regina
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Aim and use is the key as already stated. You can have one billion lumens and if properly aimed it wont blind people.
as simple as it is to reach over, and click between blink and steady, its pretty easy to put it on while on the greenway and then bump it to flash when I get on the east side of sabo when I come up to all the crossings.
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