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2fast4love
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:57 pm |
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Not quite a dork... Yet.Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:24 pmPosts: 1227Location: longfellow
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voidoid21
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:04 pm |
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Not quite a dork... Yet.Joined: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:52 pmPosts: 1466Location: Midtown Phillips
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The Strib wrote: Nisser, 65, would ride to work during the warmer months and otherwise walked in the winter, said Jennings.
His minister, the Rev. Tim Rauk, said Nisser could not get a driver's license because of his diminished capacity due to being born with cerebral palsy.
This royally pisses me off. The implication is that walking and bicycling for mobility purposes is not normal. It's normal to drive, but this poor fellow wasn't normal (so he was killed. . .) Blame the victim once again.
Edit: Complaint just sent to the author of the story via email.
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batjerk
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:21 pm |
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Not quite a dork... Yet.Joined: Wed May 07, 2008 7:02 amPosts: 1411Location: St. Anthony: ah, much better.
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Now, (for some reason) I'm even more pissed off at the driver in this case. Good God, fucking stop and at least check things out when you hit something, you worthless rat-bastard!
Yeah, and the blatant car-centricity is apalling, though not unexpected. I hate when they blame the victim. I get incensed when they turn the perp into the victim.
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G. Hoffman
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:35 pm |
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Not quite a dork... Yet.Joined: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:05 amPosts: 1185Location: Seward
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gilby wrote: Quote: MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) ― A man who worked as a cook at the Minikahda Club for 45 years was struck and killed in a hit-and-run early Thursday morning while en route to work. The man was estimated to be in his early 60s. They said he was struck on Excelsior Boulevard at 32nd Street West at about 4:20 a.m. Police said the man was dragged before the driver took off. Authorities said they have no description of the vehicle or suspect as it appears no one witnessed the accident. Authorities said the vehicle should have obvious front-end damage. The victim was likely killed instantly. Homicide investigators are on the scene, and the road there is expected to remain closed until 9 a.m.
So, not really good news, but think on this. The guy who was killed was well known and much beloved by the members of the Minikahda Club. This would include any number of politicians, judges, laywers, etc. If they find this guy (and they will probably be putting more into it than most cyclist collisions), the judge in his case will either have known, or be friend with people who knew, the victim.
If he's caught, he's screwed.
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Reverborama
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:38 pm |
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Big Forum DorkJoined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:36 amPosts: 3340Location: Hopkins
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Ah, shit. This just makes me really sad.
G. Hoffman wrote: So, not really good news, but think on this. The guy who was killed was well known and much beloved by the members of the Minikahda Club. This would include any number of politicians, judges, laywers, etc. If they find this guy (and they will probably be putting more into it than most cyclist collisions), the judge in his case will either have known, or be friend with people who knew, the victim.
If he's caught, he's screwed.
I was just thinking that same thing.
I have a good friend on the SLP police department. This is real close to the border. I'll see what he knows.
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alevasseur14
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:38 pm |
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Senior MemberJoined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:18 pmPosts: 154Location: NEShow Me Local Ads: No, I would not like to see ads
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Doomrider wrote: Quote: I can't believe these things. You may get away from the law... for a while.
Problem being, you'll never get away from your own feelings of guilt.
Assuming the person feels guilt. Could have been a drunk driver. That early, it's entirely possible. This makes me feel ill.
I suppose that's true. I just can't figure out how anybody, ANYBODY, could do that and not feel awful. I really hope they catch the person that did this.
I can understand being scared after something like this happens, but this person, whoever they are, needs own up and pay the consequences for this terrible mistake.
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vlado4
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:09 pm |
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Senior MemberJoined: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:54 pmPosts: 667Location: LynLake
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Well this is sad news.
The driver is totally at fault for hitting and running.
However, I would like to inquire whether this biker had proper night equipment such as lights etc....
I see so many people riding without lights (including two people on road bikes on Bryant around 9pm last night).
Seriously..... riding at night with no light.........
If he was using lights, then it is 100% driver fault.
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batjerk
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:01 pm |
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Not quite a dork... Yet.Joined: Wed May 07, 2008 7:02 amPosts: 1411Location: St. Anthony: ah, much better.
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Even if he wasn't using lights, it does not excuse fleeing the scene. And, even if he wasn't using lights, it might very well be all the driver's fault anyway. The law states that it is the driver's responsibility to exercise due care to avoid colliding with any individual or bicycle.
Just as it is the responsibility of the rifleman to exercise due care to avoid shooting someone, and for the same reason. When you are the threat to public safety, it is your reponsibility to ensure that you do no harm to your fellow man.
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vlado4
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:57 pm |
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Agreed that it does not excuse the hit and run.
However, the law does state that cyclists bust have lights at night.
Take a stroll around Uptown and you'll get an idea of how many of us don't follow this f*cking common sense.
Too cool for lights.
Not blaming the bicyclists in this situation (I don't even know the circumstances). But the amount of shadow riders at night infuriates me?
Are they asking to get hit or what?
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cmo925
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:46 pm |
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I was saddened by this man's death. My thoughts go out to his family and friends.
The report I saw on Kare 11 said the cyclist had lights.
I ride at night so hearing this kind of stuff scares me. It makes me want to add even more flashing lights.
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SonataInFSharp
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:48 am |
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I thought too many flashing lights would *attract* drunk drivers, sort of like a becon?
I also, only a front light is required. Only a red reflector is required for the rear, eh?
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rdrey
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:05 am |
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SonataInFSharp wrote: I also, only a front light is required. Only a red reflector is required for the rear, eh?
Yeah, that's what the law states. Personally, I've got two front and two rear on my bike, and am grabbing batteries for another. Can't hurt.
I heard the police are now looking for a tan car that has front end damage. I think they found some tan paint somewhere on the scene / struck bicycle. Keep your eyes peeled!
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MSPD
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:10 am |
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SonataInFSharp wrote: I also, only a front light is required. Only a red reflector is required for the rear, eh?
Yep. "...a lamp which shall emit a white light visible from a distance of at least 500 feet to the front and with a red eflector of a type approved by the Department of Public Safety which is visible from all distances from 100 feet to 600 feet to the rear when directly in front of lawful lower beams of headlamps on a motor vehicle."
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sveden
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:14 am |
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Almost as many posts as milesJoined: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:39 pmPosts: 6666Location: Noko-mis
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Expletive!
OK no conjecture, no traffic laws, no talk about coulda/shoulda. This is about a man who is now dead. Please consider this when posting on this topic.
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hereNT
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:20 am |
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From the City of Minneapolis:
Quote: On September 11, 2008 around 4:20 a.m. a 64 year old St Louis Park resident with cerebral palsy was struck and killed by a hit and run driver on Excelsior Boulevard less than a block from his place of employment. The male, who will be identified by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner?s Office, had been employed by the Minikahda Club in the same position since 1962 and rode his bicycle to work along Excelsior Boulevard almost every day around 4:15 a.m.
The victim, who was wearing a bike helmet, was struck by a tan vehicle and that vehicle most likely sustained right front damage. Investigators are asking that anyone with information about this case call Sgt. Bruce Folkens at 612-673-3410 or Sgt. Chris Karakostas at 612-673-3400.
The PIO contact for this case is Sgt. William Palmer.
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