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<  Mechanical Questions  ~  Tubular vs. Tubeless?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:09 am
Better to have Bikeloved and lost than never to have Bikeloved at allJoined: Tue May 29, 2007 9:22 pmPosts: 2719Location: Golden Valley
Is there a difference? Can you put sealant in a tubular tire to make things easier?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:57 am
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Tubies are like sneakers -

They are lighter because they have no bead and the rim is lighter, so rotational inertia is less.

They generally are a better "feeling" tire - check the thread count, kinda like sheets on your bed - a bit more supple

I use Tufo sealant in them, and even when I do take a puncture it generally seals right up.

You can ride them flat without messing up a rim or having them coming off

But... they cost more, and you need to glue them on - but rim tape is marvelous for this - just carry a spare and a spare rim tape and you will be fine. I have developed a love for both gatorskin tubies and Tufo stuff - try them out sometime.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:08 am
User avatarDances on the pedals in a most immodest wayJoined: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:15 amPosts: 7141
They have different primary applications, too. Tubulars are mainly used for road and track racing. You generally don't train on tubulars unless you're being followed by a team car, or are a gentlemanly badass like lsboogy. Tubulars are finding their way into cyclocross racing, and there is a small selection of tubular MTB tires.
Tubeless systems are mainly used for off-road applications where lower pressures are used. The three benefits of the system are lower spinning weight, puncture sealing, and no pinch flatting. With that said, tubeless is finding its way into road and cyclocross applications.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:30 pm
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omgmrj wrote:
You generally don't train on tubulars unless you're being followed by a team car, or are a gentlemanly badass like lsboogy.


I've put many in-city miles on a bike with kevlar-belted tubulars. No team car.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:01 pm
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The second clause in my statement isn't exclusive to lsboogy.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:14 pm
User avatarDangerously close to HipsterismJoined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:03 pmPosts: 1633Location: Minneapolis
omgmrj wrote:
The second clause in my statement isn't exclusive to lsboogy.


I use them because you young guys are too fast - take any advantage I can get to try to keep up



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:39 pm
User avatarSaw Greg Lemond once at a restaurantJoined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:48 pmPosts: 2002Location: seward
lsboogy wrote:
I use them because you young guys are too fast - take any advantage I can get to try to keep up


Joe likes this.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:28 am
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main difference is the type of rim you'd mount them to, as imo the benefits of the two systems are very similar.

tubulars get glued to a rim with no hook as there is no bead. with no bead to hold to the rim you can run a higher pressure which is great for road or track riding, and with no tube to pinch you can run lower pressure for cross for better grip.

tubeless has a tighter fitting bead than a standard clincher which when paired with a tubeless tire or some sealant, allows you to run without a tube which eliminates the chance of pinch flats and with sealant minimizes the risk of a puncture flat.


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